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Signing out of account.microsoft.com

I have an account at Microsoft that I use occasionally from the web. After logging in and choosing «No» to the «Stay signed in?»-question, here is how signing out of account.microsoft.com works1:

  1. I click «Log off» from the top right account menu.
  2. I land on a page me telling me that I’ve been logged off. (It also tells me it is a good idea to close all browser windows.)
  3. I navigate back to account.microsoft.com by typing it in the address bar.
  4. I am right back in my Microsoft account overview, with no login steps required. So I guess I wasn’t signed out after all !

Now, I repeat steps 1 through 4, but at step 2 I actually restart my browser, like the dialogue advises. In one instance, this worked, and I was in fact properly logged out afterwords, but another time it didn’t, and I still had a session. And you better make sure to close all tabs/windows – simply closing the tab/window used for the Microsoft service is certainly not sufficient.

Lastly, sometimes I just get this message:

No, I am not «still signed in to some applications». This is simply a broken, slow and enshittified web experience created by one of the greatest big tech enshittifiers.

Take from this anecdotal evidence whatever you like, but I know I am not logging in to Microsoft services on devices that I don’t own or trust. The web logout flow is unreliable and broken, so better go delete all cookies manually, across several Microsoft-domains2, if you actually want to ensure your session is killed from the client side. Alternatively, make sure to always use a temporary incognito browser session.

  1. On Firefox v127.0.2, clean user profile with no extensions and no setting adjustments, Ubuntu 22.04. ↩︎
  2. At least live.com, login.microsoftonline.com, microsoft.com and account.microsoft.com. ↩︎
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Shall I gift wrap your browser monopoly, sir ?

Back in 2019 I write a post about the importance of supporting the Mozilla Firefox web browser:

I think standards are hugely important to keeping the web open and accessible for all, and I strongly dislike browser engine monopolies. Web publishing needs diversity in applications which consume, process and present the data, as a force that pulls it towards agreed upon and open standards.

https://stegard.net/2019/01/why-you-should-use-mozilla-firefox/

Fast forward three years, and the web is even closer to complete Google domination, with Firefox usage on the decline. By that, I mean Google controlling a browser with a market share close to 65%[1], and that’s not including all the Blink engine Chrome clones out there. If we include all of those browsers, the market share is over 70%[1]. Compare that with Mozilla Firefox’ current 3.3%[1] market share – and you get a truly unfortunate story. If you want a history lesson, in case you are too young to remember, check out the First browser war[3]. The bottom line is that it’s rarely, if ever, a good thing when a single profit driven entity controls important technology world wide at this scale. It takes away your freedom. The open web of information should belong the people and not corporations using the people as products.

I recently stumbled across a YouTuber by the name of Gardiner Bryant, and he has published a video where he elaborates on the issue of browser and web tech domination. I urge you to watch it and make up your own mind:

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Gardiner Bryant – Firefox is on the verge of extinction. What can they do about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xvtz3pN_Sw

I say well said. And in case you had forgotten; Mozilla Firefox is still a great open source browser, and you really need no political reasons to use and support it.

References

  1. https://gs.statcounter.com/, at time of publication
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xvtz3pN_Sw
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars#First_Browser_War_(1995%E2%80%932001)